Voice2Page, Netaudioads and PayPerPlay Advertising

Finding Worthwhile things to do to Make Money Online

2008-12-05T18:35:00.001-08:00

Well since netaudioads and payperplay have gone buts there ar probably a lot of people looking for other alternate ways to make money online. Once thing that they can do is learn to pump out enough content to start winning some great local search terms and find affiliate programs that match the traffic that is coming in.

You can go for local business names such as I have with Carl Gregory Brunswick or go after broad local terms like special finance Tulsa. Eaither one will bring in traffic that can convert to click on affiliate programs. The thing that is good for someone like me is I have learned to scale this type of content and get it out there fast.

See this is different than affiliate marketing that most people chasing money online are accustomed to. No recruiting and you only have yourself to blame for failur or success. Not a program, or one affiliate program because then you can scale and dump at will.

To Many Minuses Not Enough Pluses

2008-03-19T08:05:00.000-07:00

As it is well know that Voice2Page and NetAudioAds has had a problem running an affiliate program in the past it may not be known to many that Charles Heflin has also had a situation where affiliates have not been paid in the past either.

While I have no been able to verify the claim with the writer of this it does appear legitimate:

I even contacted One Shopping Cart who administers the affiliate program and while they did get a reply from Charles that was forwarded to me I still never received a reply or payment from Charles or anyone at SEO20/20. While earlier I said it was not large amounts of money it wasn’t just chump change either. As of this writing the total owed is $692.48

You can read the whole post just visit Payperplay Founder Not Paying Commissions owed..

Now Dependable Will Their Audit Be?

2007-12-30T13:05:00.000-08:00

NetAudioAds is up to what looks like an effort to mislead advertisers by inflating their audit numbers. They are making claims that they have spidered sites and are instructing publishers to place adcode for their upcoming "third party" audit.

I created an account at Pay Per Play to monitor the progress of this alleged revolutionary new advertising platform and received the following email:

Welcome to Pay-Per-Play and NetAudioAds!

We have spidered your websites and you may embed the code
for ad placement on them now.

Please visit http://aa.voice2page.com/ppp_embed.html for
the embed code and instructions.

We ask that you embed this code fragment in all your pages
as soon as possible as our third party audit begins on
December 22, 2007 and the prices we charge advertisers
is based on the results from that audit.

If you have any issues or questions, please feel free to
email me at lhost@voice2page.com.

2008 is going to be a great year for all of us.

Thank You,

Larry Host
CTO, V2P Communications, Inc.

What is amusing about receiving an email of this nature from them is that I did not enter a single website into their system to be spidered, yet I am receiving assurance my site is up to par to insert ad code.

Not only does their third party audit need to be verified but possibly their claims need to be audited prior to wasting time or money in this advertising platform.

Permission Based Marketing - PayPerPlay is not the Answer

2007-12-22T00:32:00.000-08:00

While I have been accused of being overly verbose in speaking out against PayPerPlay and the advertising medium to be delivered via the Voice2Page Platform called NetAudioAds it is critical for potential advertisers to realize that the paradigm in this age of Internet Marketing is not intrusion but permission.

Pop-ups and automatic downloads have already been blocked by current browser technology and virus software and are nowhere near as effective as they once were. Many users of the FireFox browser already use java script and advertising blocking plugins and it is highly probable if Auto Played Audio becomes mainstream then it too will be met with type of resistance as it's predecessors.

The sad thing is many industries are still embracing bad technology in their online advertising efforts while consumers are becoming more web savvy by leaps and bounds. If you want to brand in todays ever evolving online marketplace you need to have a consumers permission and must not force things on them they do not want. If they want what you have they will find you.

The branding message that will be delivered is intrusive and unwelcome and may negatively reflect on your brand and not increase awareness but instead alienate the consumer you are attempting to attract.

Now if your product is geared to low income females looking for sweepstakes and coupons it may be a winner if your ads are heard on these types of sites and is your target demographic. This demo is the one thought to click most online advertising anyway. Their habits tend to be intrusive and do not mind speaking to telemarketers.

Unfortunately it looks like voice2page is trying to push a product into a niche, advertising, that is not most practical application for it's product. While it may be a short term winner for delivering a branding message in the long run it can only do more harm than good and make an otherwise useful Social Networking / Media tool short lived.

Voice2Page or PayPerPlay who is misleading who?

2007-12-18T18:00:00.000-08:00

PayPerPlay is making some bold claims in their blitz to attract a new batch of affiliates for the voice2page product. One of the biggest deceptive claims that they are making is that 550,000 people have been earning income from netaudio ads for the last 2 1/2 year:

Here is a screen shot from their sales page:

Click the image to see a larger view.

When the voice2page affiliate program was launched mid year of 2006 the voice play ads were not live and the user base was a fraction of what it is now. During the period of the original affiliate program not one single affiliate or user was paid one cent for "advertising plays" but PayPerPlay continues to tout these claims.

In a recent email from voice2page to the original affiliates they have offered them refunds of affiliate payments paid in. Many have received refunds but none have ever been paid one cent for ad plays like PayPerPlay is touting.

The real question who mislead who? Did voice2page mislead PayPerPlay or is Pay Per Play intentionally misleading new affiliates to the netaudioads affiliate program?

Verifing Claims of Existing Advertisers

2007-12-17T07:23:00.000-08:00

Pay Per Play has made claims of actual advertisers in the launch of their new campain to recruit affiliates. Since HBO was made aware of their claim they have edited their sales page and related links.

Their old sales page copy showed this: found here
Their current on is now this.

NetAudioAds™ PPP is not new, it has been running for 2 ½ years, has over 66,000 advertisers and over 550,000 websites that serve PPP ads to their visitors.

The 550,000+ websites that currently serve these ads are responsible for up to 43 million streams (impressions) of advertisers' 5 second audio ads on a monthly basis.

Listen to some 5 second audio ads from
some of our actual advertisers: Click Here

In the past when you clicked the click here link it played this alleged ad snippet. Here
(It appears that they are still using the same ad.)

They also changed the verbiage on the sample ads page. In the past it encourage people to use it as an ad delivery format now they just call it a sample and tell people not to use it. I will be publishing all verified or denied claims at www.imscamalert.com. There is already one story about their HBO False Claims and why it is a poor advertising choice. Pay Per Play - The Next Generation of Intrusive Internet Marketing.

You will notice that they are claiming 66,000 advertisers. While this may be their current active use base it is doubtful that many advertisers are actually buying ads from them. Most is probably from people using it to record their own message on sites like myspace.

They are making some big claims using names like Harley Davidson, HBO, (verified non advertiser) Burger King and Taco Bell.